Is Self-Segregation a Sin in the Bible?

Most Christian Americans including myself condemn the words and actions of White supremacists, the KKK and Neo Nazis. But in our private lives whether it be who we date or marry, the neighborhood we live in or the church we attend we live racially segregated lives.

This will be my first article in a series I am calling “A Biblical View of Race Relations”.

Racial Segregation in America has changed little over a half century after the Civil Rights movement.  The map of the United States that is at the top of this article has been called “The Race Dot Map” [1]. It was made by Dustin Cable at the University of Virginia’s Weldon Cooper Center for Public Service.  His program draws on data from the 2010 U.S Census and it literally has over 308 million dots representing individuals living in the United States and he combined this with google maps technology to bring us this stunning representation of racial distribution in America.

Blue dots represent Whites, green dots represent Blacks, orange dots represent Latinos and red dots represents Asians. Brown represents other racial groups.

A brief glance at the race dot map shows blue blotches all across America confirming the statistics that America is still a primarily white nation.  However those dots reveal something else.  Whites choose to live in rural areas far more often than minorities do. Minorities (Blacks, Asians and others) in many parts of the country tend to live in or just outside of major metropolitan areas.

But the most important thing they reveal is racial segregation.  Even in areas that appear to be purple from a high level view (that means a lot of races living near each other) when you zoom in on the map to neighborhood levels you will see that neighborhoods across America are still primarily segregated by race.

Whites live in mostly White neighborhoods

An article on CNN.com entitled 4 ways you might be displaying hidden bias in everyday life states:

“According to the CNN/Kaiser poll, a majority of whites (69%) say the people they live around are mostly of the same race as them, while Hispanics predominantly say they live around people of other races (59%). Blacks are split, with 51% saying they live around people of other races and 41% saying they live around mostly other black people.

One longstanding explanation for the prevalence and persistence of racial segregation is that white families are unwilling to live in neighborhoods, or send their children to schools, with large minority shares. A landmark study published in 1971 by economist Thomas Schelling demonstrated that once the minority share reaches a “tipping point,” the whites leave.” [2]

Whites prefer mostly White schools

An article from BusinessInsider.com entitled “Why schools still can’t put segregation behind them” states:

“A federal district court judge has decided that Gardendale – a predominantly white city in the suburbs of Birmingham, Alabama – can move forward in its effort to secede from the school district that serves the larger county. The district Gardendale is leaving is 48 percent black and 44 percent white. The new district would be almost all white.

The idea that a judge could allow this is unfathomable to most, but the case demonstrates in the most stark terms that school segregation is still with us. While racial segregation in U.S. schools plummeted between the late 1960s and 1980, it has steadily increased ever since – to the the point that schools are about as segregated today as they were 50 years ago.…

In my view, we cannot fix those systems by way of more individual choice, charters, vouchers or school district secessions. The fact is, educational funding is down across the board, when compared to a decade ago. If we want all students to have a decent shot at better education, we need to recommit to statewide systems of public education. Only then will our base fears and racial biases begin to fade into the background.” [3]

Whites mostly have White friends

An article from the Huffington Post entitled Do Most White Americans Really Only Have White Friends? Let’s Take A Closer Lookstates:

“According to the survey, conducted by the Public Religion Research Institute in 2013, 91 percent of people in the close social networks of white Americans, or the people they most often talk to about important matters, are also white. Similarly, 83 percent of those in the close social networks of black Americans are black.” [4]

Whites marry Whites

An article from NBCNews.com entitled “One in Six Newly Married Americans Has Spouse of Different Race or Ethnicity” states:

“In 2015, 17 percent, or one in six newlyweds, had a spouse of a different race or ethnicity compared with only 3 percent in 1967, according to a Pew Research Center report released Thursday…

The largest share of intermarried couples — 42 percent — include one Latino and one white spouse, though that number has declined from 1980, when 56 percent of all intermarried couples included one white and one Hispanic person.

The most significant increase in intermarriage is among black newlyweds; the share of blacks marrying outside their race or ethnicity has tripled from 5 percent to 18 percent since 1980.

While white newlyweds have seen a surge of intermarriage, with rates rising from 4 to 11 percent, they are the least likely of all major racial or ethnic groups to intermarry.” [5]

My personal choices regarding segregation

I live just outside a major metropolitan area and like other major metropolitan areas in the country it is racially diverse unlike rural areas that are mostly White.

I have for many years worked alongside of Black, Asian, Indian and many other racial groups as a software developer.  In fact, being in the software development world will expose you to almost every racial demographic that there is.  I have been in hiring positions and have hired Black, Asian and Indian programmers.

While there is a Baptist Church just down the street from my house that is primarily Black I choose to attend another Baptist Church not far my house that is primarily White.

I have moved several times over the years and anytime I moved to a new house I had choices between neighborhoods that were mostly White, mostly Black, mostly Asian and some that were very racially diverse with equal parts of different races.  I have chosen neighborhoods that were mostly White every time.

If my children were to attend the School district in the city I live the school is actually almost half Black.  We chose to exercise school of choice options and send them to a mostly White school district that is nearby.

When I was dating when I was a young man I chose only White women to date and I married a white woman who is the mother of my children. After my divorce from my first wife and when I went on dating sites I chose only White women in my racial preferences and I dated and eventually married a White woman again.

In my personal life my closest personal friends are White.  But I do have many extended relationships with Blacks due to this site.  Since I started this blog more than 3 years ago I have interacted with many African American Pastors both hear in America as well as in Africa itself.  In fact I can say that in Africa the Bible teachings regarding gender roles are far better received than they are here in America.

As a result of this site I have also been able to interact with many Christian Pastors in India and other Eastern areas.  It has been a blessing to hear from them how this ministry has helped them.  I have actually had many requests from Pastors in Africa and India to translate my writings into their local languages and I was more than happy to give them permission.

Summary of the facts about self-segregation in America

Race segregation is no longer mandated by law in America as it once was.  Instead today we mostly choose to live self-segregated lives.

The facts are that whites(myself included) primarily desire to live in neighborhoods that are primarily white, send their children to schools that are primarily white and worship in Churches that are primarily white. Whites primarily date and marry whites.  And for the most part Blacks and Asians do the same but to a lesser or greater degree.  Hispanics seem to be more integrated than other minority groups although that is not true in all areas of the country.

Yes there is a percentage among all the races whether it is 10 to 20 percent of persons that regularly integrates with other races.  So this is not to say that whites never marry Blacks, or that Asians never marry whites. It is not to say that Whites never have Black friends or Asians never have White friends.  But the norm or pattern in American society is that races generally live segregated personal lives mostly being around people of their own race unless there are too few of their race in a given area and they are forced to integrate with other races.

Does the Bible condemn Self-Segregation?

Anyone reading this that lives near a major metropolitan area in the United States would not even need to read these statistics I have just listed or see the Race Dot Map to know from their own life experience that we live mostly segregated lives.  The fact that racial segregation exists is beyond dispute.  If you are a person that has many close friendships with people of other races and you attend a church that is very racially diverse and you live in a very racially diverse neighborhood you are the exception in America, not the norm.

The fact is that human beings in large part tend to cluster with those whom they share the most common heredity. 

This is why despite early struggles between those of English and German decent and then those of Irish decent eventually these groups all came together in America and their children easily intermarried because they have a common heredity.  Before a German, Frenchman, Englishman or Irishman opens his mouth it would be difficult to tell which one he is simply because of common heredity between these groups.  Yet if you stood an Englishman next to a Greek man you would be able to tell one was of Northern European decent and the other was of Southern European decent.

So, the question then becomes is this natural human clustering by common heredity a form of hatred towards others of different heredity? Is this natural tendency for human beings to cluster in this way a part of our sin nature that we as Christians should struggle against?

We know for sure that the Bible does not allow us to hate people based on their race or ethnic background.

“Hatred stirreth up strifes: but love covereth all sins.”

Proverbs 10:12 (KJV)

There is absolutely no Biblical allowance for hating people because of their racial or ethnic origins.  Yes, we can hate sin and evil systems of thought and wicked practices but God never allows us to hate people because of their ethnic background.

What we have seen in recent days from White supremacists, KKK members and Neo-Nazis is the very definition of racial hatred and we have seen how racial hatred “stirreth up strifes”.  Whether it is the belief that the White race is superior to others and therefore should rule over other races or hatred of Jews and Blacks or other groups – we as Christians should condemn such actions by these groups.

But there is one belief in these groups that we have no right to condemn.  We should never condemn their love for their kindred- those of their common heredity.  Do we condemn Blacks for loving those who share common heredity with them? Do we condemn Irishmen or Italians for loving those of common heredity with them? What about Chinese or Japanese people? What about Jews?

Many Whites in America love their White heritage but are afraid to say it publicly.   Many Whites would be ashamed to admit what I did about preferring to be around those of common heredity with them(other Whites).   We are taught if we say we love and prefer to be around Whites, or if we ever feel defensive because of attacks against Whites in our media and politics that we are the same as the KKK and Neo-Nazis and this comparison is an utter and complete LIE.

While I do not believe Whites should march alongside of KKK members and Neo-Nazis who promote hatred and violence –  I do believe Whites should find peaceful ways to stand up against the attacks on White culture in America.  It is sad when men like George Washington and Thomas Jefferson can only be seen in light of their involvement with slavery(which I agree was an original sin of America).  This would be like saying we need rip out the Psalms because King David was a murderer and adulterer.  It is utterly absurd.

Some will try and say “Well most whites in America are not purely English, Scottish, Irish, and German and so on but rather they are a mixture of these ethnicities. So they have no right to love or prefer whites because whites are a made up ethnicity.”  But can anyone deny that those of northern European decent do not have more in common as far as their heredity than they do with those in southern Europe, Africa and the Middle East? The answer is no – this fact cannot be denied.

But contrary to popular American and Western teachings today – preferring to live among those of common heredity whether we refer to this as “race”, “ethnicity” or “kindred” is not the same as hating those who are of a different heredity.

The Apostle Paul said this of those of who were his common kindred, those of his common heredity:

“2 That I have great heaviness and continual sorrow in my heart. 3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh:

4 Who are Israelites; to whom pertaineth the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service of God, and the promises; 5 Whose are the fathers, and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ came, who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.”

Romans 9:2-5 (KJV)

Paul never said he wished himself accursed for the Greeks, Romans or any other ethnic group – he only said this of his own “kinsmen according to the flesh”.

To love one’s kinsmen according to the flesh, those of common heredity, more than those who are not kinsmen according to the flesh is not sinful or wrong.  Whether it be to love one’s children, one’s parents, one’s cousins or even one’s ethnicity or race more than those they do not share common heredity with is not immoral or a violation of God’s law.

In fact the Bible says the first way we put our faith into practice is by caring for our kindred, specifically those or our own family:

“But if any widow have children or nephews, let them learn first to shew piety at home, and to requite their parents: for that is good and acceptable before God.”

1 Timothy 5:4 (KJV)

So the conclusion of the matter is this.  If loving and therefore preferring one’s kindred according to the flesh more than others is not sinful or wrong then neither is self-segregation.

Am I saying self-integration is wrong?

Let me be very clear that just because I am saying self-segregation is not wrong does not mean I am saying self-integration is wrong.  The Bible does not forbid us from marrying those with whom we do not share common racial or ethnic heredity.  So no it is not a sin for a White person to marry a Black person or an Asian person.  It is not a sin for a White person to prefer the company of Blacks or Asians and live in interracial neighborhoods or attend interracial churches.

What I am saying is that it is wrong for those who choose to self-integrate to condemn those who choose not to and it is especially wrong for governments to force integration upon their populations through various housing schemes and busing schemes.

Government forced racial integration is a violation of basic human freedom and the freedom of association.

Forced racial integration by governments is the flip side of racial hatred by groups like the KKK and Neo Nazis in that both of these can be the direct cause of racial strife.

Doesn’t the Bible call Christians to ignore race and ethnicity?

There are a few passages of the Scriptures that will be raised by some to challenge the idea that self-segregation is not wrong for Christians and they will say it is in fact a violation of the Christian faith and the passage below is the best representation of them:

“There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.”

Galatians 3:28 (KJV)

This passage condemns segregation in the assembled Church.  It is completely unchristian and unbiblical for a church to limit its membership by race or social class.  Christ is the savior of all regardless of gender, race, ethnicity or social status (slave or free, rich or poor).

In Christ there is no spiritual distinction between these classes, but Christ did not call for the elimination of social or physical distinctions in this world.  In other words – Christ was not an egalitarian.

The Apostle Paul sent back a runaway slave to his owner (read the Epistle to Philemon) and he commanded slaves to obey their masters (Colossians 3:22, Ephesians 6:5, I Peter 2:18).  While there is no distinction in the salvation of male and female human beings God commands that “the head of the woman is the man” (I Corinthians 11:3) and that wives are to be subject to their husbands in everything “as the church is subject unto Christ” (Ephesians 5:24).

The fact is that distinctions such as ethnicity, race and gender still exist in this world and other things that cause people to naturally cluster still exist in this world and Paul recognized that when speaking of his love for his kindred in the flesh (his Jewish brethren).

Let me just say one more word about those who self-integrate and those who actually thrive on integrating with people of very different racial and ethnic backgrounds. I thank God for these people! We would not have missionaries without having people like this.  In the same way that God grants the gift of celibacy to a chosen few I believe he grants this gift of self-integration and desire to some to go to other peoples.  They thrive on this and we as Christians should support this.

In fact, my Christian friends who disagree with me the most on this issue of self-segregation are usually missionaries.  They just can’t fathom why everyone should not be like them and thrive on interracial and interethnic integration.  In fact a great deal of Christian missionaries I know reject the entire concept of nationalism in any of its forms.

In my next article I will cover the topic of ethno-nationalism from a Biblical perspective.

References

[1] D. A. Cable, “RACIAL DOT MAP,” Weldon Cooper Center for Public Service, Rector and Visitors of the University of Virginia , 2013. [Online]. Available: https://demographics.virginia.edu/DotMap/index.html.
[2] E. Grinberg, “4 ways you might be displaying hidden bias in everyday life,” CNN, 25 11 2015. [Online]. Available: http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/24/living/implicit-bias-tests-feat/index.html.
[3] D. Black, “Why schools still can’t put segregation behind them,” Business Insider, 8 6 2017. [Online]. Available: http://www.businessinsider.com/school-segregation-today-united-states-2017-6.
[4] E. Swanson, “Do Most White Americans Really Only Have White Friends? Let’s Take A Closer Look,” Huffington Post, 3 9 2014. [Online]. Available: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/09/03/black-white-friends-poll_n_5759464.html.
[5] C. Cusido, “One in Six Newly Married Americans Has Spouse of Different Race or Ethnicity,” NBC News, 18 5 2017. [Online]. Available: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/latino/legalized-50-years-new-marriages-outside-race-ethnicity-fivefold-n761491.

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23 thoughts on “Is Self-Segregation a Sin in the Bible?

  1. the reason why caucasians saying their are pride of being white is because white is not a race, its your skin color. French, german,polish,irish pride makes more sense because that is where your ancestors come from. As for blacks, we say black pride etc is because we dont know which tribe from Africa that we come. Our entire cultural identity was stripped from our ancestors during slavery. Majority of that were born in America speak english even though that is not the language of our ancestors or taken the names of those that own us. We are a lost people cultural and so developed a new identity, african-american, new forms of dances, fashion, language etc. So that is the difference

  2. The topic of racism is a complicated one where, as usual, the world defines the word, and then goes on to define what is and isn’t racism, etc. Differing groups then go on to continuously change the meaning and what qualifies as or not as racism and then go on to label other groups racist or not. It isn’t a process based on God’s justice or right and wrong, but a process based on human selfishness, power, and control. Is reverse racism racism? Is affirmative action racism? Always note that with the world (and the enemy) that everything gets confusing quickly.
    Usually to get the bottom of an issue, we need to leave the world’s word behind and explore what the bible says specifically in the words it chooses. Hatred is the word that is relevant here. Hatred of a person is the sin that needs to be confronted. Rule 2 is to love your neighbor as yourself. The truth is that Rule 2 is much easier to follow when you are following Rule 1 which is to love God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength.
    bgr, your thoughts in the article seem to propose that simply wanting to live with and be with your own kind is not hatred, and I don’t disagree with that. I do think people tend to self segregate so I don’t think that in and of itself is a smoking gun to be pointed at as hatred or racism. But, we need to be careful, for sin comes quickly to the human heart and what might begin in comfort or choices based on such has the quick propensity to turn into hatred for what is less comfortable or common to us. That is where adherence and obedience to Jesus and the Holy Spirit are what we need to keep us on His path.
    I think the answer is to put His ways above our ways. Look with eyes that see spiritually. When I see people, I want to see a brother or sister in Christ or I want to see someone who is badly in need of Jesus in their life.

  3. Anm1,

    I totally agree with u that our sin nature can easily turn our love for our kindred according to the flesh, our kind, our race, our ethnicity into hatred for those who are not our kindred.

    There are many ways that I see in the past whites treated blacks but also bad ways English treated German and Irish immigrants. They often acted in hateful ways and that was wrong.

  4. Sapphire,
    Your argument is false. Before the last century and for history of mankind nations were based on common heredity, common language and common cultural values including religion.
    The french, German, Dutch and English all share a particular caucasi on particular heredity just as southern European Caucasians share another. The English Caucasians are actually a mixture of the angles and Saxons from Germany and French and norseman.
    My point is this. Just as Englishmen were the product of several northern European Caucasian groups coming together so too whites in America are the result of several northern European caucasian groups coming together to form a new Caucasian variant group of humanity.
    If you study the census from America in 1700s and early 1800s the English Caucasians dominated the other causians thus forming a new physical and cultural Caucasian group here in North America.
    Therefore it is no different for a White person to take pride in their American Caucasian variant group and it’s traditions and accomplishments then it for a Jew to take pride in the history of Israel or an Englishmen to take pride in the Caucasian heredity he bares.
    Again I agree with Anm1 that we must always be careful of allowing our love for our kindred to become hateful or sinful. But can an American Caucasian take pride in his heredity group which founded this country? Yes he can.

  5. but whites are not saying they are proud to be white because of their common heredity, they are saying white pride because of what their whiteness gave them in America since its birth, thats why its a problem especially here in the south where I live. White power and white pride when said is said by neo nazis, kkk, white supremacists etc thats why its a problem.

  6. Sapphire,
    Another thing on black pride. I have said before that i agree that the version of slavery that was practiced in North and South America was not the slavery allowed in the Bible and was wrong. It was truly an original sin in America and other countries on the American continents.
    But let’s say slavery never occurred here in America and Blacks who came here came freely and knew their African tribal origins. Over time those blacks from various tribes would have merged together as you have now in the same way Caucasian groups did to form a new African group here.
    That is the crux of my argument. Human beings naturally cluster by common heredity wherever they go and they form new kindred groups based on that common heredity.

  7. Sapphire,

    Why can you as black person take pride that Jessie Owens whipped the Nazis in the Olympics(as u should) but I as a White man cannot take pride in a White man named George Washington who helped found this nation?

    Can you explain the difference?

  8. Sapphire,

    I totally get the negative connotation of the white pride with neo Nazis and the KKK. But they have abused the concept of special love for and pride in one’s kindred and their accomishments.

    When a Neo Nazi or KKK uses white pride they are reminicing about whites enslaving blacks and wanting to return to that. When i think of white pride I think of great white men like George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln and their contributions to building the country and culture we have today despite where they may have been wrong in some areas.

  9. I just explained the difference. Yes we do all those things that you stated but the difference in being prideful of being white is that, they are not proud of their ancestry, they are proud of their skin color and what it brings. Blacks have no clue where they come from in Africa which has many countries. As african americans when we trace our history, the furthest we can go back is to slavery. Whites can trace their ancestry to Europe and some can even trace it to royal bloodlines. Black people can not do that due to what slavery has done to our cultural identity.
    That is the difference, black are told their skin is ugly, colorism is a huge problem within our community. you can check out this blog for more information http://abagond.wordpress.com/
    but white pride and black pride will never mean the same thing.

  10. Sapphire,
    Let me try one more time to clarify my position on white pride. If my son, my father or my cousin three times removed invents some cure for cancer and I take pride that one of my kindred whether close or far removed did this great thing there is no sin in that.
    However, if I take the position that my kindred is awesome and everyone else sucks and should now bow to my kindred that is sinful pride and bigotry.

  11. White pride is a motto primarily used by white separatist, white nationalist, neo-Nazi and white supremacist organizations in order to signal racist or racialist viewpoints. It is also a slogan used by the prominent post-Ku Klux Klan group Stormfrontand a term used to make racist/racialist viewpoints more palatable to the general public who may associate historical abuses with the terms “white nationalist”, “neo-Nazi”, and “white supremacist”.

  12. Sapphire,
    Again I totally agree that the phrase “white pride” has been hijacked by white supremacists, neo Nazis, the KKK and other groups.
    But so has the cross. KKK members have abused the cross for the last century. Do we have to let go of the cross because they have hijacked it for evil purposes? The answer is no.
    Instead we call them out for the haters and terrorists that they are we do not allow them to steal the cross from true Christianity.
    In the same way we have a false dichotomy in America. Whites are told it is racist to take pride in the accomplishments of men like George Washington, Thomas Jefferson and Abraham Lincoln and that is wrong.

  13. Sapphire,

    I am going to be talking more about the system issues you alude to in my upcoming posts.

    But while your waiting for that let me ask you a question. Should Jews not be proud of King David’s accompliments including conquering Jerusalem for their capital and solidifying their nation because he committed adultery with a man’s wife and then had him murdered to cover it up?

  14. Sapphire – I hear where you are coming from. You are right when you say it was unjust what happened when people were stolen from their land into slavery. It was sinful and wrong. And it is wrong that culture was lost and changed forever. What I think often happens though is that everyone gets lumped in together. Even then, not all whites were ok with that sin. And now, I would say that a strong majority of whites are not ok with that sin. Look at Boston – how nice was it that there were multitudes more coming out for what was right, and that the wrong people had to go home early. I know there is a lot of pain in this, but Jesus is the answer to it. White skin, black skin, any skin, He says feed My sheep. I would argue that we need to stop worrying about people’s skin color so much and appreciate that the Lord fashioned each of us in our mothers womb.

    I know there is pain here, but you can’t have pride in your skin and say others shouldn’t have pride in theirs. That is envy pure and simple. I have thought this many times today, but it really isn’t the world or the world’s opinion we need to be concerned with, rather, it is God’s opinion we should be concerned with. Who cares what the world thinks of this color skin or that color skin – we KNOW what Jesus thinks and amen to that. Honestly, what else matters? I would argue we all need to stop taking pride in ourselves no matter what skin color we have and put our pride in the one who deserves it.

  15. > “According to the survey, conducted by the Public Religion Research Institute in 2013, 91 percent of people in the close social networks of white Americans, or the people they most often talk to about important matters, are also white. Similarly, 83 percent of those in the close social networks of black Americans are black.”

    You should couch this in terms of actual demographic percentages though. White social networks are actually very close to the actual demographics of America at-large (87% vs 91%). Black social networks are very far away from actual demographics. Does this mean that some races are more likely to reach out than others? If so, then why all the vitriol toward “white people” despite the fact they really are trying? Who benefits from this narrative?

  16. The point should be, racism is sinful. However, being a particular race is not, as long as one does not look down on the others. To which the politically correct claims that whites are automatically racists for being white.

  17. John Hazlett,

    I am going to touch on the general topic of Racism later in this series. But I will give you a hint of where I am going. The definition of racism today has been so bastardized as to be almost unrecognizable. Racism simply put is hating someone, or looking down on someone simply because of their race or ethnic background.

    For an Englishman to say “I love my English heredity and I am proud of the accomplishments of the English race of men” is NOT racism. But when an Englishman says “I think Englishmen are superior to all other races and should rule over them and by the way – the Italian race sucks!” – that is racism. My point is loving and preferring one’s kindred, those of common heredity, and being proud of accomplishments of those of your common heredity is NOT racism. It is when you hate or look down on other heredity groups that you become a racist.

  18. It is a common way of speaking in the USA to say things like “I’m proud to be an American” or “I’m proud of my Irish heritage.” But to use Biblical language: pride is a sin. Not everyone that calls themselves a “proud American” is necessarily commuting the sin of pride, but there is a danger. It is better to get out of the habit of speaking in such a manner.

    Instead, Christians are called to be thankful. I am thankful to be an American. All the blessings that I have been given I do not deserve. God’s blessings include including being born into this country – a land of religious freedom, and a land of economic opportunity. I am thankful for the founding fathers and the very good (not perfect) system of government that they created and that benefits us.

    My wife is thankful that God made her a woman. I’m thankful that God made me a man. I’m thankful that I’m (mostly?) white, I suppose. Do people of other races thank God for making them as they are? I should hope so.

    I am not descended from George Washington or Thomas Jefferson, or any of the Founding Fathers. And yet I am thankful that I enjoy the fruits of their labor, and I claim them as my American heritage. All Americans of every ethnicity should do the same! Why should an American of any color hesitate to call these men their Fathers?

    White people tend to claim this heritage and say that they are “proud” to have it. Many black Americans do not claim this as their heritage and seem to be unthankful for it.

    we say black pride .. because we don’t know which tribe from Africa that we come. Our entire cultural identity was stripped from our ancestors during slavery. We are a lost people cultural and so developed a new identity, african-american

    I don’t look to Europe for my cultural identity. For better or worse, I don’t know who all of my ancestors were, and they probably came from many different cultures. Yet I do not lament my “lost culture.” I embrace American history and identity as my own. In this day and age, all Americans of every color are invited to do the same.

    This refusal irks some white people. It seems to be implied that we should be ashamed of the Founders, and that we should be ashamed of ourselves for celebrating this heritage. As though we are unaware of their faults. But we are thankful for their accomplishments and the benefits that have been passed to all of us.

    Most Black Americans are the descendants of slave owners. Should they be ashamed of their ancestors? Absolutely not. We should all be thankful for the blessed positions that we have been born into.

    As Christians we need to find our primary identity in Christ, and claim our citizenship in heaven as far more valuable than any other identity. We should embrace the fact that in Christ these walls are torn down, and not allow any of this resentment being stirred up in the world to interrupt our brotherhood.

  19. yes we as african americans should be very proud and happy our african ancestors were taken from their homes, given non african names,beaten,raped, lynched, mutilated, families broken up by our white ancestors . Im also grateful for my white ancestors displacing my native american ancestors from their homes and placing them on reservations. Im grateful for my white ancestors that once slavery end keep by black ancestors segregated and if they stepped outta line tge KKK was there to keep them in line, im thinking for my great grandmother for having only a 6th grade education and taking out of school to sharecrop in a white mans field. im thinking for my grandmother taking care of little white girls and cleaning white homes.

    Yes we as african americans are proud of our white ancestry

  20. Sapphire – are you a Christian? The reason I ask is that my comments would be tailored depending.

    If you are a Christian, you gotta let this hatred go! Jesus was hated, but He loved. He is our example and to follow Him, is to FOLLOW Him, and that may be dying to ourselves, dying to our hurts, dying to hurts that were done to our ancestors.

    If you are not a Christian, then I have really good news. Jesus can heal the pain you feel over this, but you have to give it to Him for that to happen. Sometimes when we are comfortable in our pain, it can be scary to let it go. That is exactly what we must to though to grow and move forward.

    It we remain in the past, no matter whether it was good, or if it was bad, or if it was ugly, then we are jailed there…

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