12 thoughts on “The Carnage of Woman’s Suffrage”

1. I considered no longer voting, but my husband wants me to vote. The problem with conservative women no longer voting is it gives feminists the edge and majority, because they will continue to vote.

   How does a very Biblical-based, red-pilled, very right-wing wife navigate being married to a man who is farther left on the spectrum….still right wing, but has a lot of worldly, feminist influences and ideals?

2. I spent the early part of Trump’s campaign in disgust. There was just so much to not like. I didn’t know who I would vote for, but I knew it would not be him! On election day I asked my husband who I should vote for. It was Trump. I filled in the appropriate dot and moved on.

3. Women’s sufferage was the tearing asunder of what God had made one in the political sphere. No longer did the household have primacy, the individual was supreme. This lead to the state directly usurping household functions in order to garner votes (from the new women voters). Husbands became rivals of the state and laws were written to weaken the husband’s position.

   This following quote from RL Dabney on the topic of women’s sufferage is spot on.

   It may be inferred again that the present movement for women’s rights will certainly prevail from the history of its only opponent: Northern conservatism. This is a party which never conserves anything. Its history has been that it demurs to each aggression of the progressive party, and aims to save its credit by a respectable amount of growling, but always acquiesces at last in the innovation. What was the resisted novelty of yesterday is today one of the accepted principles of conservatism; it is now conservative only in affecting to resist the next innovation, which will tomorrow be forced upon its timidity and will be succeeded by some third revolution; to be denounced and then adopted in its turn. American conservatism is merely the shadow that follows Radicalism as it moves forward towards perdition. It remains behind it, but never retards it, and always advances near its leader. . . . Its impotency is not hard, indeed, to explain. It is worthless because it is the conservatism of expediency only, and not of sturdy principle. It intends to risk nothing serious for the sake of the truth, and has no idea of being guilty of the folly of martyrdom. It always when about to enter a protest very blandly informs the wild beast whose path it essays to stop, that its “bark is worse than its bite,” and that it only means to save its manners by enacting its decent role of resistance: The only practical purpose which it now serves in American politics is to give enough exercise to Radicalism to keep it “in wind,” and to prevent its becoming pursy and lazy, from having nothing to whip. No doubt, after a few years, when women’s suffrage shall have become an accomplished fact, conservatism will tacitly admit it into its creed, and thenceforward plume itself upon its wise firmness in opposing with similar weapons the extreme of baby suffrage; and when that too shall have been won, it will be heard declaring that the integrity of the American Constitution requires at least the refusal of suffrage to asses. There it will assume, with great dignity, its final position.

4. livinginblurredlines,

   I absolutely believe that conservative women still need to vote. In fact, the stats show that married women tend to vote more conservatively. This is where Hillary Clinton’s jab came in after she lost when the stats showed this and she said married women were voting to please their husbands.

   You can stop voting when feminist women stop voting. The liberals would love it if conservative women stopped voting, it would tip the scales and give them many elections. The majority of men vote conservative, but there still are men who vote liberal and that means we need every conservative woman’s vote in coalition withe male votes to win elections.

   Prayerfully this will change over the coming decades as conservative families continue to out-breed liberal families. As long as we conservatives can educate our children and stop the left from grabbing them in schools and colleges we will overcome.

   Your Question:

   “How does a very Biblical-based, red-pilled, very right-wing wife navigate being married to a man who is farther left on the spectrum….still right wing, but has a lot of worldly, feminist influences and ideals?”

   Many good Christians and conservatives are influenced by feminist ideas and they don’t even know it. You just continue to love him and pray for him. Don’t preach at him. Now that does not mean you can’t ask some questions from time to time to get him thinking. There are ways a woman can very respectfully and gently get men to reconsider their positions without coming across and domineering or argumentative.

5. The longer essay by Dabney for your edification.

   https://www.covenanter.org/reformed/2016/5/22/womens-rights-women

6. Just realized my comment got posted before I was ready. It appears I have half a brain and just ‘vote to please my husband’. 🙂 Oh, well! I enjoyed the podcast nonetheless.

7. MB8,
   Everything you do should be done to please and glorify your husband (short of sinning). Choosing to do what pleases your husband IS using your full brain just as God desires for you to do.

8. My husband and I largely agree on candidates, so I am usually just doubling his vote. However, what should a wife do if she disagrees? If it is just a minor thing, like he wants to vote for a conservative 3rd party, but she wants to vote for the more likely to win republican candidate, I think she should align her vote with his. But, what if it is a more extreme difference that goes against her beliefs or convictions? Like, she wants to vote right-wing, and he wants to vote for the left-winger who promises abortion rights? Should she just leave her vote blank, then, or not vote rather than oppose her husband?

9. It depends on what your husband asks of you. If he leaves it open and allows you to vote as you like, then that is fine. If he directs you to vote a certain way, you would be in sin for not doing his will.

10. livingblurredlines,

    Your question:

    “But, what if it is a more extreme difference that goes against her beliefs or convictions? Like, she wants to vote right-wing, and he wants to vote for the left-winger who promises abortion rights? Should she just leave her vote blank, then, or not vote rather than oppose her husband?”

    The following passage should inform any Christian wife’s decision as to how she should vote:

    “2 And walk in love, as Christ also hath loved us, and hath given himself for us an offering and a sacrifice to God for a sweetsmelling savour. 3 But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;
    4 Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.
    5 For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God.6 Let no man deceive you with vain words: for because of these things cometh the wrath of God upon the children of disobedience.
    7 Be not ye therefore partakers with them.”
    Ephesians 5:2-7 (KJV)

    A wife cannot be a partaker in sin. It is one thing if you have both candidates supporting abortion rights but if one is against abortion and the other is not the choice is clear. We must be on the side of protecting innocent life.

    Think of the many Germans who stood silently by watching Hitler as he committed genocide against the Jews. Should they have voted for a man with such visceral hatred of the Jews? NO!

    And we too must be on the side of innocent life. It would be the same way with gay marriage, if you have one candidate who is for promoting gay marriage and transgender rights you cannot partake in sin by voting for them if the other opposes it. Now if both candidates are for gay marriage and transgender rights then it makes no difference.

    I agree with you that except in these extreme cases a wife should vote whatever way her husband wishes, especially when it comes to issues of fiscal policy and other such policies. But when it is a case of life and death like abortion or the sanctity of marriage these are issues where a wife must obey God rather than man.

    In the last election my wife and I had a dispute. I liked Donald Trump from the beginning of the Primary. I knew that he had many character flaws and a checkered past. There were many other candidates like Ted Cruz who definitely had better character traits. But I felt that Donald Trump’s support of the evangelical issues and his wanting to protect the American economy and the border were extremely important issues. It was his policies I was voting for, not his person. God can use even very flawed leaders to accomplish his will. My wife voted completely based on her feelings. She simply did not like his personality. She directly defied me and voted for Ted Cruz in the primary. That was sin on her part.

    And this is a prime example of why women should not be allowed to vote. They often vote based on feelings and not the larger logical picture. Women cannot separate the man from the policies he supports. I told her – “we are not voting for a Pastor, if we were I would agree with you. We are voting for a President”.

    To this day many Christian women have a hard time supporting Trump because of some of the things he says – I don’t agree with all his statements either. But I do believe he is the imperfect vessel God has chosen at this time in the world. Look at what he did in Israel being the first President to make good on moving our embassy to Jerusalem? Look at what he has done in support of religious rights and in support of the pro-life movement.

    Look at what he just said in his state of the union address condemning the murderous actions of partial abortion and calling for Federal legislation against it.

    So yes in most cases a wife should support her husband’s vote and obey him in whom to vote for except in extreme cases like abortion.

11. @BGR, I am a Trump supporter. (So is hubby.) And I agree, women are so wishy-washy!! I know women who voted for that rapist, Bill Clinton, “because he’s good-looking,” and completely ignored his sexual shenanigans and crimes. But, they loathe Trump for lesser accusations.

    I listened to an alt-right podcast on the dangers of women voting and how liberals play the emotions card to get women to vote their way and push the Marxist agendas. It is the deception of the serpent over and over and over again. Many women and Beta males vote left-wing.

    Even though I vote with hubby and I am more politically logical than most women, I would gladly give up my right to vote if it would shut down all women from voting. I see the damage it has done. I see the political stupidity of so many women. I see the insanity and mental illness that is praised and fed on the left.

    And Ted Cruz wouldn’t have been able to handle the presidency. Trump has the cahoonies to handle the criticism and pressure. He has an alpha male personality that used to be more common among men. Cruz would have buckled and played the make-them-all-happy game. I think Trump sees beyond politics. His wealth and celebrity has gained him insight over the decades that career politicians don’t have. He also knows that America was historically strongest when degeneracy was the lowest. Degeneracy and economics go hand-in-hand. Traditionalism breeds economic growth and cultural stability and strength of nation.

12. @Trey,
    I just meant that what I typed didn’t seem to make sense. After the kids wake up and mom mode gets started it’s time to focus on the important stuff and politics take the back seat.

    I don’t talk politics much because I lean heavily toward Libertarian and get labeled as too liberal by my conservative friends, and my liberal friends( or people rather, I don’t have many liberal friends) think I am too conservative. Got to be one or the other I reckon! The only friend I had any conversation about Trump shared my hesitation in voting for him. This is also the same friend who plans to vote for him in the next election. The fact is that our husbands would have never been okay telling us that we should vote for a certain candidate. Both of us were free to choose and were allowed to do so without causing and strain. Both of us would have also deferred to our husbands choice if they insisted or told us that we had to vote specifically. I didn’t vote for Trump to please my husband, but because I know what its like to live in a divided house. Do I feel regret? No. I trusted my husband and the position that God placed him in and did what I knew would be right in God’s eyes. Just last night my husband and I were talking about a special election we have coming up about some county taxes, and although I am not crazy about voting the way we will be voting, I will be voting in agreement with my husband (and the majority of the county I am sure). 🙂 As far as extremes such as abortion like BGR mentioned, I am grateful that my husband and I are in agreement on such things and that I would have the freedom to choose differently if it were necessary.

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