The battle Gay Rights advocates will never win

Many across the nation are hailing today’s 5-4 the Supreme Court’s decision in favor of creating a new civil right to gay marriage as a great victory for equality. As Bible believing Christians who believe in a higher power than the Supreme Court, we grieve for the further decline of our nation. To my fellow Bible believing Christians – you need to realize the gay rights assault on Christian values is not over with.

This has always been about more than gay marriage

Christian friend, if you think this battle was simply about gay marriage you would be sadly mistaken. This battle that has been actively and publicly waged since the mid 90’s for gay rights has always had its goal as the total acceptance of homosexuality in our culture. While there are some homosexuals who do not believe in forcing homosexual acceptance on Christians (or forcing Christians to service gay weddings) they are in the minority of homosexuals.

This was the progression gay rights advocates have used to try and accomplish their goal of total acceptance of homosexuality:

  1. First they argued against Sodomy laws(laws criminalized homosexual sex) as an invasion of privacy and they won with the Supreme Court overturning all Sodomy laws in the United States in 2003(Lawrence v. Texas).
  2. At the same time they wage a public relations campaign by pushing Hollywood producers to produce more films and TV shows with gay couples to subtly change public opinion about homosexuality.
  3. They then began to push for gay marriage as civil right, as right of equal protection through the Federal appellate courts. They picked the most liberal appellate courts first – and thus forced States where the will of the people had banned gay marriage – to go against their people and allow gay marriage.
  4. With most appellate courts coming down in favor of gay marriage – this pressured the swing vote of the Supreme Court, Justice Kennedy, to feel that he had to vote with the other 4 liberal justices to create a new civil right to Gay marriage.
  5. Shut down all public condemnation of homosexuality, all “gay to straight” conversion programs, and all Christian businesses that refuse to service gay weddings or events that honor homosexual relationships.

 

The 5th phase of the Gay Rights Advocates agenda of total acceptance had already begun before the Supreme Court today created the new “civil right” of gay marriage.

Consider these cases in the news in recent years:

A 70 year old florist being sued for refusing to provide flowers for a gay wedding

“The court also ruled recently that both the state and the same-sex couple, who each filed lawsuits against her, may collect damages and attorneys fees not only from her business, but from Stutzman personally. That means the 70-year-old grandmother may not only lose her business, but also her home and savings because she lives her life and operates her business according to her beliefs.

“The message of these rulings is unmistakable: The government will bring about your personal and professional ruin if you don’t help celebrate same-sex marriage,” said Kristen Waggoner, senior counsel for Alliance Defending Freedom, who argued before the court in December.

The decision against Stutzman sets a dreadful precedent against our first freedom in the Bill of Rights: religious liberty. The court says that she is free to believe what she wants, but not to practice her religious beliefs. The court has ruled that if she wants to run a business in the state of Washington, she must defy her conscience and participate in same-sex weddings. If she does not, then the full coercive power of the state — as well as civil liability — will be brought against her.“

http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/20/living/stutzman-florist-gay/

Mennonite Couple Refuses to Host Same-Sex Wedding; Files Lawsuit Against Iowa Civil Rights Commission

“A Mennonite couple that owns an art gallery in Iowa has filed suit against the state’s Civil Rights Commission over being threatened with punitive action for refusing to host a same-sex wedding on their property.”

http://www.christianpost.com/news/mennonite-couple-refuses-to-host-same-sex-wedding-files-lawsuit-against-iowa-civil-rights-commission-106308/

Christian bakery couple faces 135,000 in fines for refusing to bake wedding cake for gay couple

“Aaron and Melissa Klein ran a small bakery called “Sweet Cakes by Melissa” for seven years in Gresham, Oregon, but had to shut down their store in 2013 after Rachel Cryer and Laurel Bowman filed a civil rights complaint against them. Administrative judge Alan McCullough ruled Friday that the funds will go to Cryer and Bowman for “emotional, mental, and physical suffering.”

https://biblicalgenderroles.com/2015/04/27/christian-couple-faces-135000-fine/

Christian florist couple in Iowa get out of wedding flower services after legal battle over refusal to service gay wedding

“The Christian owners of a flower shop, restaurant and wedding venue in Grimes, Iowa, have decided to no longer offer any wedding-related services after facing a contentious legal battle following their refusal to host a gay couples’ ceremony.”

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015/04/13/they-refused-to-host-a-gay-wedding-and-the-hateful-response-profoundly-damaged-them-now-they-say-god-has-given-them-no-fear-to-speak-out/

A Christian facility sued for not allowing same sex civil union to be performed on its premises

OCEAN GROVE, New Jersey, January 13, 2012 – A New Jersey judge ruled against a Christian retreat house that refused to allow a same-sex civil union ceremony to be conducted on its premises, ruling the Constitution allows “some intrusion into religious freedom to balance other important societal goals.”

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/judge-rules-christian-facility-cannot-ban-same-sex-civil-union-ceremony-on

Christian based adoption agencies may be forced to closed

“Adoption services that have, for 100 years or more, provided children with good, safe and traditional homes with a male husband and female wife are facing a take-it-or-leave-it scenario in the new legal landscape: Accept the sweeping social change in the most elemental compact in the history of mankind — the nuclear family formed by the marriage of one man to one woman — and abandon 2,000 years of dogma by continuing to find children homes through adoption services, including same-sex couples; or close up shop.”

https://www.osv.com/OSVNewsweekly/ByIssue/Article/TabId/735/ArtMID/13636/ArticleID/14666/Tough-times-for-Catholic-adoption-agencies.aspx

New Jersey outlaws gay to straight conversion therapy for children

“Licensed therapists are banned from using conversion therapy to try to change a child’s sexual orientation from gay to straight”

http://www.nj.com/politics/index.ssf/2013/08/christie_signs_bill_banning_licensed_therapists_from_using_gay-to-straight_conversion_therapy_on_kid.html

I could show more cases – but you get the point. Gay rights advocates did not just want the freedom to have homosexual sex in private, nor just partner rights (such as power of attorney) or even what they won today – the right of gay marriage.

There end game is to force by law, and through the threat of total financial ruin and other penalties, the complete and total acceptance of the homosexual lifestyle on all of our society.

The battle gay rights advocates will never win

This final battle for the total acceptance and approval of homosexuality (which is what their end goal was the entire time) will never be won. Gay rights advocates will NEVER convince Bible believing Christians that they must accept gay marriage as moral and right, or that they must provide any type of wedding related or other services that honor homosexual relationships.

Notice I said “Bible believing” Christians. Gay rights advocates may be able to convince some liberal Christians who have abandoned a belief in the Bible as the literal Word of God to accept gay marriage – because these Christians have no anchor and thus they have no foundation for their version of Christianity.

If there is one thing that has been proven about Christianity over 2000 years – it is that persecution strengthens the Church.

When the Church is persecuted – that is when it grows and strengthens. This issue of gay marriage and Christians being sued over non-acceptance of homosexuality will serve as a lightning rod to galvanize Christians. Catholics, Methodists, Baptists, Lutherans and Christians of many other denominations will stand arm and arm against this assault on our faith.

Conclusion

So to gay rights advocates I say – you may have been able to convince a large part of our population to think there is nothing wrong with your way of life – but you will never convince or convert Bible believing Christians into accepting your lifestyle or to service your weddings or other events than honor homosexuality.

Christians have faced far greater persecution than what you or the courts can bring against us and in your futile attempt to force total acceptance of homosexuality – you will actually strengthen and galvanize Bible believing Christianity, and if you are not careful you may turn others against you as they see the results of your persecution of Christians.

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13 thoughts on “The battle Gay Rights advocates will never win

  1. The power of propaganda always surprises me. Only 30 years ago, homosexuality was almost universally condemned, and now it’s accepted in half the world and half the States. Clearly, the natural position worldwide is that homosexuality is a disorder, and should be condemned. The problem is, we lost the youth. Somehow, homosexual advocates were able to brainwash and indoctrinate them into accepting it. If you talk to anyone my age, they believe that homosexuality poses no health risks (homosexuals have a 5 times higher chance of getting HIV) and that they are born as homosexuals (despite no scientific evidence.) IMO this is a result of two things: homosexual propaganda (esp. through the internet) and the collapse of the traditional marriage model. The parents simply haven’t taught their children about Christianity and thus they are easy prey for the homosexual movement.

    Honestly, I am very pessimistic and I feel that it’s only going to get worse as time goes on. More and more ‘Christians’ are accepting this behavior day by day and it’s heartbreaking.

  2. Emily,

    I agree it is a sad day for our nation. But I see some light in this as it could very well unite the Churches of America in a way that we have not seen in decades. I hope it will. We need to bring to the press and the attention of all Americans – each and every instance of the gay rights advocates persecution of Christian businesses and associations for their practice of their faith.

  3. Indeed. We need to do more to counter the homosexual movement. One thing I am happy about is that this behavior is still considered abnormal in Texas. Another thing we can do is fine those Christians persecuted for not accepting homosexuality. For example, we sent a lot of money to Memories Pizza for bravely standing up to this nonsense.

  4. “If there is one thing that has been proven about Christianity over 2000 years – it is that persecution strengthens the Church.”

    Truer words have never been written, (albeit not in the way they were intended).

  5. People actually try to convert gay people straight? I don’t anyone among my peers who would date or marry someone who ‘used’ to be gay.

  6. Don,

    I agree that we are to preach the Gospel to all, and that includes gay people. In fact, a friend of mine that I went to my Christian high school with, is a minister out in California. The area he is in has a higher than average gay population. He minsters to gays all the time.

    But he would never allow a person living the gay lifestyle to join the his church. Yes God saves prostitutes, he saves whore mongers, he saves couples that live together out of wedlock and he saves gays. However, the church can not tolerate from its membership those who live in open sin. The church must preach against all these sins, and discipline members who live in open and unrepentant sin.

  7. @ BGR: I agree.
    I read and interesting paraphrase once that goes like this:
    He who accepts a homosexual in the name of homosexuality receives a homosexual’s reward. We must stick to our guns.

  8. “When the Church is persecuted – that is when it grows and strengthens. This issue of gay marriage and Christians being sued over non-acceptance of homosexuality will serve as a lightning rod to galvanize Christians.”

    I’ve looked at it this way too–and I hope you’re right. I see an awful lot of versions of Christianity out there right now and I hope, at least, that means people are digging into their bibles and studying as a result.

    I’ve hear about how people should not be quarrelsome over doctrine. Or in an issue like this one, of course, how it is important and a cause worth causing division, as someone has to blatantly deny the truth of the Bible to accept “gay marriage.”

  9. May I just say that while I find this website sickening a 100% of the time, I have never taken the time to sit down and write a comment. Now I have been driven to that point because you don’t understand the *law*.

    There are laws in many states that don’t allow a business to refuse a service based on their sex, ethnicity, relationship status, sexuality, and religion.

    A majority of the cases you mentioned broke the law by refusing service. That is why they were fined and taken to court.

    The Bible calls us to follow the laws of our government. These people weren’t following the Bible, we’re they? And considering you use the Bible to allow rape in a marriage, I would think you’d consider relevant here as well.

    I do not agree with anything you say all the time. Yet, I have never argued with you because I didn’t see the point. When you play victim to discrimination with these cases while forgetting these cases are just that because of discrimination then I must make a statement.

  10. Natalie,

    Yes the Bible calls us to obey the laws of Nation

    “Submit yourselves for the Lord’s sake to every human authority: whether to the emperor, as the supreme authority, 14 or to governors, who are sent by him to punish those who do wrong and to commend those who do right.” – I Peter 2:13 (NIV)

    “27 The apostles were brought in and made to appear before the Sanhedrin to be questioned by the high priest. 28 “We gave you strict orders not to teach in this name,” he said. “Yet you have filled Jerusalem with your teaching and are determined to make us guilty of this man’s blood.” 29 Peter and the other apostles replied: “We must obey God rather than human beings!” – Acts 5:27-29(NIV)

    So Natalie we have the principle that yes we should follow the laws of our governments – as long as those laws do not contradict God’s law.

    When the Government tells a Christian baker, florist or another Christian service provider that they must participate in a gay wedding or any other even that specifically honors homosexuality they have a Biblical right and obligation to refuse to participate in that event by servicing it and they are right before God to disobey the unbiblical laws of the United States in these areas where they conflict with God’s law.

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