Feminism – The Return to the Sin of Eden

The first sin woman ever committed in the Garden of Eden was not accepting the limits God had placed upon her.  She wanted equality.  The first sin man committed was in knowingly abdicating his authority over his wife and following her in her sinful desire rather than rebuking her sin.

The scriptures show us that woman was deceived by her sinful desire for equality:

“1 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?

2 And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: 3 But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.

4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: 5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.

6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat.”

Genesis 3:1-6 (KJV)

Later in divine commentary given to him by God, the Apostle Paul gives us further detail on the Genesis account:

“And Adam was not deceived, but the woman being deceived was in the transgression.”

1 Timothy 2:14 (KJV)

So what Paul is telling us is that Eve was deceived by her desire for equality while Adam went into the sin fully knowing what he was doing.  His sin was not a desire for equality with God, but rather a failure to live out his role by leading his wife and rebuking her sinful request to him.  God tells us man’s first sin when he states:

And unto Adam he said, Because thou hast hearkened unto the voice of thy wife, and hast eaten of the tree, of which I commanded thee, saying, Thou shalt not eat of it: cursed is the ground for thy sake; in sorrow shalt thou eat of it all the days of thy life;”

Genesis 3:17 (KJV)

Many years later the righteous man Job would do with his wife what Adam should have done with Eve when Job’s wife enticed him to sin against God as Eve enticed Adam to sin to against God:

“9 Then said his wife unto him, Dost thou still retain thine integrity? curse God, and die. 10 But he said unto her, Thou speakest as one of the foolish women speaketh. What? shall we receive good at the hand of God, and shall we not receive evil? In all this did not Job sin with his lips.”

Job 2:9-10 (KJV)

Job did not follow his wife’s sinful request – but instead he rebuked his wife as God would later rebuke his wife Israel (Hosea 2:2-23) and Christ would later rebuke his wife the Church (Revelation chapters 2 & 3).

God warns Adam just as he would later warn Cain

In Genesis 4 we read of God’s warning to Cain regarding his sin nature:

“If thou doest well, shalt thou not be accepted? and if thou doest not well, sin lieth at the door. And unto thee shall be his desire, and thou shalt rule over him.

Genesis 4:7 (KJV)

When God speaks of “his desire” he is speaking of Cain’s sinful nature.  His sin nature wanted to control his actions and make him sin against God.  But God told him instead of letting his sin nature rule over him, he must rule over his sin nature.

This exact same phrase is used by God regarding a woman and her relationship to her husband:

“16 Unto the woman he said, I will greatly multiply thy sorrow and thy conception; in sorrow thou shalt bring forth children; and thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee.

Genesis 3:16 (KJV)

In this case sin’s desire is replaced by the woman’s desire toward her husband.  What we find in Genesis chapters 3 and 4 is that man must fight against two powerful forces that desire to control him and would have him sin against God.  He must rule both over his own sinful nature as well as the sinful nature of his wife.

“But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.”

1 Timothy 2:12 (KJV)

A woman’s sinful desire causes her not only to seek equality with man – but also to usurp authority over man thus reversing the created design of God in regard to the two genders.

After 6000 years woman and man return to their original sins

Men and women have sinned against God in many ways since that fateful day in the Garden of Eden around 6000 years ago. And women have rebelled against their authority in man for all that time in many different ways.

But while man sinned against God in many ways since that day in the Garden there was one command that for the most part man followed:

“thy desire shall be to thy husband, and he shall rule over thee” Genesis 3:16 (KJV)

Men for all of human history up until the mid-19th century followed God’s command for them to rule over women. Sometimes they did so in harsh and imperfect ways, but for the most part they did not fail to exercise this mandate. Men were fully cognizant of a woman’s sinful desire for equality with man as she sinfully desired equality with God in Eden. Men, for the most part, were cognizant of a woman’s sinful desire to control man and men kept women in their place even when they sought to rebel.

But around the mid-19th century an equality cult was born. It was this equality cult, or egalitarianism as it is now called, which gave rise to the birth of feminism.  The equality movement taught that if one person did not have the same rights and privileges as another then this was treating that person in an inhumane and unjust manner.  Feminism seized on this principle applying it specifically to women calling the inequality of women to men an injustice.  The Bible was even twisted and mangled to support this false notion of injustice.

Just as Eve reached for that forbidden fruit in the Garden of Eden women were once against reaching for the forbidden fruit of equality. But men having stood their ground against this sinful inclination in women for 6000 years relented and they once again did what God condemn Adam for.  They abdicated their mandate to rule over women and “hearkened unto the voice” of women.

This movement cast aside the patriarchal family structure that had served mankind since creation itself. This feminist movement eventually infected the Church and attacked the very foundations of God’s design of the genders and of his divine institution of marriage.

The result of the equality cult and his spawn of feminism has been the downfall marriage and the family over the last century.  God’s institution of marriage is routinely mocked by couples engaging in casual sex. Divorce is rampant and couples living sin together is the norm. Children having two moms and dads is now the way of life.

But as Christian Churches and as Christian men and women we can return to God and his will and design for our genders if we so choose and he will heal our land if we do so.

If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.”

2 Chronicles 7:14 (KJV)

Returning to Biblical Gender Roles

In order to return to living by Biblical gender roles we must return to “the book” as a young Israelite King did.

“10 And Shaphan the scribe shewed the king, saying, Hilkiah the priest hath delivered me a book. And Shaphan read it before the king. 11 And it came to pass, when the king had heard the words of the book of the law, that he rent his clothes. 12 And the king commanded Hilkiah the priest, and Ahikam the son of Shaphan, and Achbor the son of Michaiah, and Shaphan the scribe, and Asahiah a servant of the king’s, saying, 13 Go ye, enquire of the Lord for me, and for the people, and for all Judah, concerning the words of this book that is found: for great is the wrath of the Lord that is kindled against us, because our fathers have not hearkened unto the words of this book, to do according unto all that which is written concerning us.”

2 Kings 22:10-13 (KJV)

The “book” alluded to in the story above is the Word of God.  Like young Josiah said of his ancestors, our American “fathers have not hearkened unto the words of this book, to do according unto all that which is written concerning us.” Our Ancestors starting in the mid-19th century began to lose their way when they followed the false teachings of egalitarianism and feminism.

Now we must return to the teachings of “this book” if God is to heal our land, our churches, our families and our marriages. This is the primary mission of this site – BiblicalGenderRoles.com.

With that being said we will start with the divine commentary on the Genesis account as given by the Apostle Paul:

“3 But I would have you know, that the head of every man is Christ; and the head of the woman is the man; and the head of Christ is God…

7 For a man indeed ought not to cover his head, forasmuch as he is the image and glory of God: but the woman is the glory of the man. 8 For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man. 9 Neither was the man created for the woman; but the woman for the man. 10 For this cause ought the woman to have power on her head because of the angels. 11 Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord. ”

I Corinthians 11:3 & 7-11 (KJV)

This passage teaches four critical Biblical principles if we are to understand God’s design of man and woman in this world.

Biblical Gender Principle #1 – Man was made to image God

Man is “the image and glory of God” meaning he is God’s direct image bearer and he was made to bring glory to God by playing out the image of God.

So what does this mean? It means the masculine traits given to men before the fall and those masculine traits which are honored by God are things that men should freely and abundantly exercise to the best of their ability.  Man’s desire to lead, provide and protect.  His competitive nature, his desire to build, his desire for respect and his desire for beauty and pleasure all come from God. Man’s desire for all these things is not simply for himself, but ultimately it is so that he will fulfill the purpose of his design which was to be God’s direct image bearer.

Women today complain that men just don’t act like men anymore and you know what – they are right! But it is men, not women that must decide for themselves that they will act like men.

“Be on the alert, stand firm in the faith, act like men, be strong.”

1 Corinthians 16:13 (NASB)

It is men who must decide to take back their mantle of responsibility. Will they work hard and provide for their families or will they be deadbeats? Will they love their wives and children by leading them, correcting them, teaching them, providing for them and protecting them as God does for his people or will they abuse their families and abdicate their responsibilities? Will men follow the mandate to rule over their wives or will they let their wives rule over them? Will they image God or not? These are the choices men must make for themselves.

Biblical Gender Principle #2 – Woman was made to help man image God

There are many Christians on both sides of the aisle that teach that men need women to help them be what God intended them to be.   But most of these Christians do so from the false premise that woman by nature is spiritually and morally stronger than man and they in essence teach that men need their wives to act as a mother figure to them to help them to fully image God as a husband and father.

Christian Feminists and Egalitarians on the left make no secret of their belief that men need women to keep them in line. They have no problem with women usurping authority over their husbands wherever a woman feels her husband is wrong.

But there are many Christian groups which on the surface seem to oppose women usurping authority over men but then they encourage feminine usurping through the back door.  Focus on the Family is a good example of this.  In one statement they will say they believe in male headship and that women should submit to their husbands.   But then they completely undermine Biblical patriarchy by teaching women they may usurp authority over their husbands by “placing boundaries” on their husbands.  Women placing boundaries on their husbands is just another way of saying women can correct and discipline their husbands as a mother would correct and discipline her son.

In a way the teachings of groups like Focus on the Family, that supposedly support Biblical male headship yet subtly undermine it, are more dangerous than that of Christian feminist groups because they are mixing their heresy with some truths from God’s Word.

So how should a woman help her husband?

From a Biblical perspective a woman helps a man image God not by being his mother and teacher but instead by giving her husband the respect she gave her own father and seeing her husband as her teacher. Only when a woman rids herself of all pride realizing that every part of her God given physical and mental design was meant to serve and bless her husband can she help him image God.

It is when a woman expresses her respect for her husband, her need for his leadership and guidance and when she fully submits her mind and body to his will making herself one with him in this way that she fully helps him to image God.

Woman was made in man’s image to bring him glory and by doing so she brings God glory. God made woman the “weaker vessel” (I Peter 3:7) so that she would need man as mankind needs God. Woman was made from man (I Corinthians 11:8) so that she would share in common with man a human nature.  In their common human traits men and women both reflect the nature of God but woman’s nature deviates from God’s nature in her distinctively feminine traits. Every attribute of a woman’s feminine nature was given to her not as a reflection of God’s image, but rather as a way to help man fully reflect God’s image by being an object upon which man can fully play out his role as the image bearer of God.

Biblical Gender Principle #3 – Only through marriage can man and woman fully live out their design

Men and Women are given a natural pull and complementary needs toward one another so that they will play out the roles given them by God.  This is why I Corinthians 11:11 tells us “Nevertheless neither is the man without the woman, neither the woman without the man, in the Lord.” – meaning that God made men and women interdependent on one another. Many liberal Christians and those who reject Biblical principles will not have a problem with this third principle.  They like that men and women need each other.  It sounds nice.  But what they don’t like is WHY the Bible teaches here that men and women need each other.

“22 Wives, submit yourselves unto your own husbands, as unto the Lord. 23 For the husband is the head of the wife, even as Christ is the head of the church: and he is the saviour of the body. 24 Therefore as the church is subject unto Christ, so let the wives be to their own husbands in every thing.

25 Husbands, love your wives, even as Christ also loved the church, and gave himself for it; 26 That he might sanctify and cleanse it with the washing of water by the word, 27 That he might present it to himself a glorious church, not having spot, or wrinkle, or any such thing; but that it should be holy and without blemish.

28 So ought men to love their wives as their own bodies. He that loveth his wife loveth himself. 29 For no man ever yet hated his own flesh; but nourisheth and cherisheth it, even as the Lord the church:

30 For we are members of his body, of his flesh, and of his bones.

31 For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh. 32 This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.

33 Nevertheless let every one of you in particular so love his wife even as himself; and the wife see that she reverence her husband.” – Ephesians 5:22-33 (KJV)

It is “for this cause” (vs 31), the cause of fully playing out the roles that God has given to men and women that we enter into marriage.  Ephesians 5 shows us that God made man the image bearer and woman for man to play out his role as the image bearer in marriage. In God’s divine institution of marriage man plays the role of God and woman plays the role of mankind.

Men “need” women as objects upon which to play out their God given image traits. On the other hand – every need of the God given feminine nature (before the corruption of Eden) is given to a woman to help man play out his God given attributes.

In other words the reason God gave women a desire to be beautiful was not for themselves but it was because men desire beauty.  Women were not given sexual desire for themselves, or the ability to derive sexual pleasure for themselves.  They were given sexual desire and the ability to experience sexual pleasure to please their husbands for whom they were made. A woman was not given the desire to bear and nurture children for herself, but rather she was given these desires to please her husband and help him fully play out his God given image as both husband and father.

In summary regarding this third principle – there are some things God has given us to do that we cannot do without cooperation with someone else. It is only through God’s divine institution of marriage that men and women can fully play out the design for their genders.  Man cannot fully image God without becoming a husband and father and woman cannot fully live out her role as the being created specifically for man without finding a man to serve as his wife and mother to his children.

Biblical Gender Principle #4 – Celibacy is God’s exception to his design for two genders

In the rare case of celibacy, God allows in his sovereignty for some men and women not to fully play out the roles he designed for each gender.

God’s rule – “Be fruitful, and multiply” (Genesis 1:28) is that man plays out his image and that woman is the object upon which man plays out his image.  His exception to this rule is that he has given some the “gift” of celibacy (I Corinthians 7:7) so he does not put in them the independency upon the opposite sex referenced in I Corinthians 11:11. This gift is given for service to God.  But we must remember this is the exception to God’s design and not the norm of his design for man and woman.

Conclusion

Unfortunately our American ancestors have returned us to the original sins committed by Adam and Eve in the Garden of Eden. Eve sought an equality that was not hers to have and Adam abdicated his responsibility to rule over his wife and followed her sinful request. But like young King Josiah – we too can return to God’s ways if we return to the teachings of “the book” – the Word of God.  It starts with us as men and women as individuals returning to God’s Word and then with husbands teaching their wives and fathers teaching their children.  When our families are rebuilt on the Word of God then we can take back our Churches for God and eventually our nation for God.

Update 6/10/2017:

I made a minor change in my text to reflect the earth is 6000 years old by Biblical chronology, not 7000 as I originally put.

See this excellent article on the subject of the age of the earth:

https://answersingenesis.org/age-of-the-earth/how-old-is-the-earth/

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23 thoughts on “Feminism – The Return to the Sin of Eden

  1. His sin was not a desire for equality with God, but rather a failure to live out his role by leading his wife and rebuking her sinful request to him.

    I see it rather more plainly. Adam had a choice between God and a woman. And he chose the woman, because he “loved” her (whatever that means). It is the story of man ever since, and modern marriage models this; godless, yet uxorious men indentured to acquisitive, sinful wives and reaping the consequences. Literature throughout the ages and all around the world brims with stories of pagan heroes ultimately meeting their destruction because they “loved” a woman. It’s the old romantic story (indeed, it’s the original romantic story): Adam “loved” Eve so much that he would rather take on her sin and die than be separated from her.

    Women bristle at this notion, because it sounds as though Adam is somehow noble in doing this. …But he is not noble. He is a fool. And, in putting Eve above God, he is in effect an idolater. God does not commend him for his actions, but punishes him instead.

    Of course this interpretation has the merit of making what took place in Genesis a direct type and shadow of what took place at the Cross. Jesus, “the second Adam”, so loved his own bride that he took on her sin and died for her. …Only where Adam’s sinful actions brought death, Christ’s sinless sacrifice brought life.

  2. Sorry, but you made an error in your estimate of Adam’s first sin. It wasn’t in following his wife into sin, it was in deliberately letting her disobey God’s command despite his awareness of the truth of God’s warning and the duty God charge Adam with as the guardian. His sin was in his willful neglect of his duty and allowing Eve to sin while doing nothing to stop it. That itself was disobeying God as it violate his duty as guardian. True, he didn’t understand the difference from right and wrong until he ate the fruit, and true God’s pronounced judgement was directed at follow his wife’s will to sin by eating of the fruit, but his sin started before that in neglect of duty as guardian and husband in his laziness and apathy. Disobeying God at all is sin(John 14:15), and when he let her sin unimpeded Adam did just that. Likewise, it would have been better word with regards to women’s sexual desire being for their husband to say “not simply for themselves, but also to their husbands” as the desire of sexual intimacy and pleasure on both sides is biblical.

  3. Tyler,

    Your Statement:

    “Sorry, but you made an error in your estimate of Adam’s first sin. It wasn’t in following his wife into sin, it was in deliberately letting her disobey God’s command despite his awareness of the truth of God’s warning and the duty God charge Adam with as the guardian.”

    Tyler there was no option for Adam to “let” her disobey God. The passage in Genesis is clear. The serpent tempted Eve, and Eve being tempted by her own lust equality with God ate the fruit. Her husband was not even there. The account is clear Eve listen to the serpent, and Adam listened to Eve. So when Adam came to her she had already committed the sin and ate the fruit – then she enticed him to eat it as the serpent had enticed her and then instead of him rebuking her sin and refusing to follow her in her sin listened and followed her in her sin.

  4. @BGR Adam was there when Eve went to take of the fruit, and when she did he let her do so and let her sin against God when he could have stepped up and stopped it(it says she gave the fruit to her husband WITH HER). He could have led her from the scene, reminded her of God’s command, and told her to stay away from the tree and serpent(Satan), but he didn’t, and then he, as you said, listened to Eve over God and deliberately disobeyed God’s order about the fruit as well. His sin began when he let her eat the fruit rather than stop it, and then he did the same, resulting in sin entering the world, as the Bible said Adam was the one who brought sin into the world even though Eve sinned first, meaning he was responsible for making sure it didn’t happen(Romans 5:12, 1 Corinthians 15:21).

  5. Adam may not have been there for the lie, but he was there when she took of the fruit according to the Bible, and let her do so and sin against God unimpeded.

  6. The Hebrew of Genesis 3:6 is not clear. It could mean Adam was there the whole time or met up with Eve after she ate, which I find more likely because of her adding the “neither shall we touch” with still no input from Adam. What is clear is that the serpent did not converse with Adam but brought the fall by tempting Adam to sin through of the woman. The question is not whether Adam was derelict in protecting Eve, but that he obeyed her and not God, that is he feared losing fellowship with her more than with God. While a wife can be a tremendous blessing, she can also be an instrument of a devastating curse.

    Proverbs 14:1 The wise woman builds her house, But the foolish pulls it down with her hands.
    Can I get an Amen?

  7. When my wife went back to Colombia from here in Mexico she wanted me to go with her. I explained to her that God has placed me here in Mexico and I have to obey him. Some well meaning brethren think that I should have followed my wife to Colombia and should live with her there. One pastor even told me that since Jesus sacrificed Himself for his bride, that I should sacrifice myself for my bride and set up my base with her in Colombia. I told him that if I were to do that, I would be disobeying God in order to please my wife, just like Adam did with Eve.

  8. @Jonadab The Bible is not so unclear, even in the Hebrew on this. It says Adam was there when she took of the fruit and ate it, saying she gave the fruit to her husband WITH her. Maybe he was there for the lie(I think he was, but thats just my opinion on that particular matter and I don’t claim that as fact), maybe he wasn’t, but he was there when she took of the fruit and ate it, and Adam deliberately allowed it without doing anything to stop it. His sin began there, not when he ate of the fruit, although God’s pronounced judgement referred to that and how Adam listened to Eve over God and disobeyed Him with the knowledge and understand it was wrong and that God’s warning was precisely true. Adam wasn’t deceived.

  9. @Tyler Bryant idk man the kjv uses old English, maybe it meant that eve ate the fruit and also gave it to her husband ( maybe the ‘with her’ means she is including Adam in her sinful venture). You know like why just her but Adam with her(taking him with her)…..and i am not talking out of context but semantically.

  10. Missionary to Mexico,

    You were already a missionary to Mexico when you met your wife. She knew where you were living and what you were doing.

    The wife is called to be the helpmeet to her husband. The husband is not called to be the helpmeet for the wife. Therefore, the wife is to adapt herself, follow the husband, and help the husband with his family, work or service.

    There would still be opportunities for you to sacrifice for your wife if she was helping you in Mexico. I think that Pastor gave you some bad counsel.

  11. Thanks, Bee!

    I met my wife through a Christian matchmaking web site. I even posted on the web site that whoever wanted to be my wife would have to live with me in Aguascalientes, Mexico. So, she knew that before she married me. However, one of her friends here told me, “But God is not so rigid that He cannot change his mind.” So, God changes His mind to be in line with our desires? Not the God that I know! However, on the TBN Spanish affiliate called ENLACE, I’m sure that she’s heard a lot of preachers say that God wants us to be happy (so, in effect, He wouldn’t tell us to do anything that would make us unhappy). Again, this is not the God of the Bible that I know!

  12. @empowering The Scripture gives no such indication as taking him with her to do it as Scripture doesn’t actually say that, neither does it indicate that the “with her” is inclusion of him in her sinful venture. The most literal understanding is that he was physically with her at this time, and did nothing to prevent her from sinning, and then followed suit and did the same thing with the knowledge and understanding it was wrong.

  13. Yes, the first person to sin was a woman. That is why woman is really more evil and dangerous that man. In societies where women are ‘free’ to do whatever they want, or are permitted to do whatever they want, there will always be much immorality and decadence.

    Feminism is not new, nor is man’s failure to take responsibility in the Bible sense new, I would humbly suggest. I think in ancient pagan cultures outside the west, this was the case, where women would engage in ritual prostitution, lesbian and child sacrifice. “Egalitarianism” was rife in many such cultures, for example, the celtic culture and native american indian culture, where women would make decisions, of course, to the detriment of those cultures. Men and women would fight wars alongside each other in ancient celtic society. That is why, I think, such cultures could not be strong. Look at how the celtic culture was barbaric, uneducated (indicated by how they did not have a written language), irrational, indicated by their lack of organisation, and thus crushed by the Roman power.

    Note how all the strong cultures who become world powers, were male-oriented cultures. This is simply evidence of how any culture that is women-oriented will be weak, irrational and incapable of advancing, one that dies out quick. If you study your history honestly and thoroughly, you will know this.

    For your information, yes I am a woman, and who is just disgusted and repulsed by all the feminism, including that in the Church in the west.

  14. Satan knew that the best way to unravel any civilized society was to fracture the traditional family unit. Feminism has been one of his biggest successes.

  15. I’m a former female Feminist who took the red pill and became a men’s rights advocate. After spending hours reading Evangelical feminist blogs/books, I must say that your site is a breath of fresh air. It is painful to see “believers” try to force fit the bible into today’s cultural norms. They act like female equality is the highest virtue and loftiest goal in the mind of our creator. It’s nothing more than a poor attempt to kowtow to the secular humanists and water down the bible to coincide with the morality of the secular humanists. Ever since I embraced my God given roles me and my husband have been closer and my life has been blessed in more ways than I can count.

  16. Mia M,

    It is impossible to consistently follow the teachings of the Bible and also embrace feminism. You will hold to one and thereby reject the other. Christian feminists must sacrifice entire chunks of the Bible on the altar to their favorite false Gods of Equality and Emotion(feelings). Equality and Emotion run command their lives, not God and certainly not their husbands.

    The utterly lack the quality which is essential to submission and being a woman – humility. I am glad you found these qualities in yourself and have seen benefits of following God’s design for your life.

  17. @Missionary to Mexico, during my life I have experienced many times Christian pastors and leaders bending the words of God and finding irrelevant biblical passages to please the female audience, who according to statistics is often 70-80% percent of the church. The same audience wields the spending power of their husbands, and their decisions to “support the church” makes the pastors think twice before they dare to say no to their desires. Offended members of the church can destroy the whole church, and they don’t forget the “offence” (someone telling them the truth). And many of them fit well the description from the Bible: “And with they learn to be idle, wandering about from house to house; and not only idle, but tattlers also and busybodies, speaking things which they ought not. I will therefore that the younger women marry, bear children, guide the house, give none occasion to the adversary to speak reproachfully.” I Timothy 5:11

  18. @jojo

    How about Asian cultures? Also, still pertaining to your remark about “egalitarianism” in ancient cultures, this might be one of the beginning of an answer to one question of mine that often popping in my heads nowadays; “Why people who are vocal on indigenous rights (even in my country, Indonesia) tend to be socialist-progressive-liberal-feminist in politics?”

  19. This is another proof of how unbiblical the church structure is that is in place today, which causes the church to be run like a business instead of a ministry. The NT church structure was very different from the pastor driven top down corporate structure of today!

  20. @Lukas

    Many Asian cultures I think were (rightly) patriarchal because they recognise somewhat intuitively the problems that women gaining power over men would cause. Chinese philosophers, for all their faults, were very astute about the world and how it works. They accepted what is a somewhat paganised form of Christian patriarchy because they were logical and sensible.

    Hi Lukas. I think many, but not all, of the liberal progressives support ‘indigenous’ rights, to oppose the so-called ‘imperialism’ of the historical west, by which they mean the Christian west. In addition to this, they are much that is similar to them spiritually, if not the same with them spiritually, but just under a different guise. Many of the liberal progressives are hardcore environmentalists, that is, nature-worshipping people. This is similar to many ancient cultures who of course, worshiped nature.

  21. The reason why there are so many marriage problems in not just modern society, but any society, is because of the multitude of sins of women in marriage. That is why it is women, rather than men, who need to be restrained for the good of society. Women, when unrestrained, are just the most vile, despicable creatures who are worthy of nothing but hate. While of course sin in men is just as vile, woman will just accuse, and abuse people with her feminine wiles, to make people think she is the victim when she is really the oppressor. The idea that ‘women used to the oppressed class’ is a lie to be honest. Look at what Amos 4:1 says: “Hear this word, you cows of Bashan on Mount Samaria, you women who oppress the poor and crush the needy and say to your husbands, “Bring us some drinks!”
    Look at how it is the women who are oppressive, and use men to sin causing them to go to Hell with them.

    The Bible says that “your sin will find you out”. Those women who thought they would have a great life after divorce go on to do so, only to find out that they suffer. Their suffering is NOT to be sympathised with as they deserve to suffer for their sins. It seems like the irony with women divorcing their husbands is that they can now be (rightly) blamed for their suffering. Multiple news reports say that although she may get the house, she is often unable to pay the mortgage, and ends up having to sell it, and pay rent. She will continue to get poorer as a result of her sin. Good! Her children will also hate her so much as a result of seeing what she did. Her new husband/partner may not really care for her at all, and perhaps commit adultery against her.

    While the government may try to help such ‘victims’, government can never truly help anyone in their welfare. This simply indicates that the role of government is not welfare, but law enforcement (Romans 13)

    Sin is like a snake. It bites the person who plays with it.
    Righteousness on the other hand is vindicated. Wisdom, which leads to righteousness, is justified by her children.

    Fight for righteousness and you will find that you will one day be vindicated by the righteous. Never be overcome by evil. Never let evil tempt you into evil to become evil yourself.

  22. Every time I read this blog I feel like such a worthless wife….. I’ve had very bad health since I was young. It is very very hard for me to keep the house at all. My husband knew this going in and still wanted to marry me and support me. The more I read about what wives “are for” the lower my self esteem gets. Why was I cursed which such awful diseases if I was meant to keep a house, cook, clean, bare and nurture children…? What is MY purpose. My husband even rarely wants sexually relations. Maybe once a month. Yet I am open and wanting of intimacy and he knows I am willing and ready. What is your thoughts for women who are plagued with such bad health from youth? What is my purpose?

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